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Starfire by Tarzman Starfire by Tarzman
I was supposed to do a commission of Firestar, and instead I did Starfire by mistake. Back to the drawing board to do Firestar, and this sketch goes on Ebay.
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:icontarzman:
Tarzman Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2009
Hey, thanks for your comments and support. The point I was trying to make to lordmagnusen is that I decided on a color and stuck with it, and the reasons I used that color were based on, not what I believed the color to be but, from what I observed. He obiously likes it to be a certain color.
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DeadDog2007 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
well...i can see his point in a way...had you drawn mary jane ( wish you would) and gave her brown hair...then it wouldn't be mj. but mayjane's hair is her trademark.
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kitkatgurl007 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009
i love this! you should totally do raven :) haha
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:icontarzman:
Tarzman Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2009
Thanks, I just might do that!
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kitkatgurl007 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2009
:)
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DragonShade09 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
love the eyes
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cthu Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009
This is gorgeous!
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Tarzman Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2009
Thanks!
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Chaosbandit Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009   Traditional Artist
Shweet pic!
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robokop Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009
How nice! :D
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:iconlordmagnusen:
lordmagnusen Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009  Professional Writer
Good piece, but her hair is wrong. Her hair is red, like fire; you're taking away one of the defining visual characteristics of the character.
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Tarzman Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009
I checked and double checked all reference i coudl find. Early comics had her hair as red, while recent art had it as brown or brownish red. A recent illustration by Adam Hughes was my defining reference, which had her hair as brown.
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lordmagnusen Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009  Professional Writer
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Her hair is red even in recent comics; it can be darker or lighter depending on the colorist, but her hair is red, and you gave brown hair which is different.
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Tarzman Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009
Let's say Auburn, which is a redish brown. I took great care to add red to the brown, trying to lean toward red, but still keep a brownish look, to go along with the most recent reference I found. Like it or don't like it, I could give a rat's behind whether you do or don't.
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lordmagnusen Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009  Professional Writer
I'm sorry you can't take criticism, it's just wrong. You're a good artist, if a bit repetitive and unoriginal, but you should take criticism better. You got the hair color wrong, I'm sorry to say, I read several comics a month with Starfire on them, and that's not her hair color.
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Tarzman Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009
I was trying to decide if I should answer or not, it's almost pointless. Notify Adam Hughes he got the hair color wrong on his wonderful illustration and I'll know that you're not just blowing wind. Now, I'm going to lead you by the hand through this: whenever I do a commission I don't just decide arbitrarally what I'm going to do, I first look around at whatever I can find as far as reference. Old reference had her hair red; fine I'll make it red. Then I looked some more and it was not long before I found it colored brown, including issues of Teen Titans I've got sitting on my self. I don't follow the Titans book regularly so I thought that possibly over the years her hair color had changed just a bit depending on who was writing or drawing the book. So I says to myself I says, "If I make it red I might be wrong." I saw the Adam Hughes illustration, and that was all the proof I needed. Talk about not being able to accept something, what is your problem? I'll just say this is my interpretation of Starfire, right wrong or indifferent. If you think it's wrong, that's fine, that's OK. I think it's correct, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it but bark into the wind. And I can sit here feeling smug in my own little world, while I'm totally ass backward on this, and it still doesn't amount to a hill of beans. It's your opinion, and my opinion.
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lordmagnusen Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2009  Professional Writer
Again, I'm sorry you can't take criticism. I do write a weekly column were I call out errors on professional creators, and many of them read it, and take criticism like a grown person should.

Adam Hughes has never worked on a regular Titans book that I know off, so he's hardly a reference to go by on the character.

And no, my opinion would be if I said I don't think you made her breasts large enough, or made her hair too long (since due to the trail, it actually changes length a lot of the time). This is based on observation.
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PyroTwilight Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009
I think he just toned down the colors a bit so they don't look completely comicy. Her hairs redish brown here and her eyes are a darker green.
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lordmagnusen Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009  Professional Writer
You can tone it down, but only up to a certain degree... her hair is not red "like fire", her hair actually turns into fire, and there's a big difference. It's like coloring Green Lantern another color, her fire red hair is the character's visual defining characteristic.
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PyroTwilight Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009
Um Starfire's hair never turns into fire. Unless you mean that contrail that was used when she would fly which was just an artistic addition.
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lordmagnusen Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009  Professional Writer
The trail is still used, and she usually has a fire aura around it. Maybe I didn't express myself correctly.
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ayeshoo123 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009  Student General Artist
this is great!
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krassawat-makul Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009
why you do not try design in new costumes. i think this coscumes so too old.
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shadowyzman Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Nice one :)
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Jedd-the-Jedi Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2009  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Very nice, I prefer Starfire to Firestar anyway. I love the intensity in her eyes, the skin tone and the detail in her hair. Good work Dave!
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ericalannelson Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2009
LOL, Oooops! Still, Good job!
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Jeff-Egli-Art Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2009
LOL, That's funny! :P At least a sexy pinup came out of the deal, beautiful!
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Razmere Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2009
Well at least you didn't draw the OTHER starfire.
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